Thats always struck me as a bit odd, because for my money, the man in the high castle isnt really. Westward takes place in a universe where world war ii ended with the destruction of berlin and, incidentally, much of europe by a presumed soviet superweapon. Thats good, or else the man in the high castle by philip k. Written in 1962, its set in a fictional 1962 where nazi germany, fascist italy and imperial japan have won the war and more or less divided the world between themselves see map above.
A hypothetical axis victory in world war ii has become a common concept of alternative history and counterfactual history. An alternate history scenario where germany wins ww1. Nazi germany and her allies consisting of italy, franc. The most popular theme for alternative histories by far is world war ii it would have been possible to populate the entire list with books where the nazis won or the conflicts outcome is drastically. This isnt your runofthemill alternate history book. But for every plan put into action, an alternative one is scrapped or kept hidden for future use. My educated guess is that the nazi party collapses in germany as the german economy plunges into a severe depression as the costs of rearmament are moved onto the books and the value of the mark plunges as inflation rages. Feb 22, 2018 how would germanys size and borders look, had it won ww2. If germany won maybe ww2 happened still and the nazis rose to. What if the confederates won the american civil war. Nazi germany had a lot of disadvantages and would have needed several lucky breaks just to durably win the war in europe and.
Instead of picking a divergent point and speculating on its repercussions, eric flint drops a slice of 2000 into 17th century germany. The usa and soviet union fight nazi germany in an alternate world war ii after a british capitulation in 1940. Set in 1962 after nazi germany and japan won world war ii in 1948. France had a population of 39 million in 1914, versus. In the summer of 1945 japan is defeated by the usa. Oct 10, 20 germany already had a huge technological edge in 1940. Many, many alternate history ask how the world would be different if germany had won world war ii. Here are some alternate histories set during world war ii or its alternate history equivalent. Godwins law of time travel can also be used in telling similar stories about other past warlosers and faded empires. In 1942, a series of meetings took place between the war planners of the imperial. War ii, and america has been divided between japan and nazi germany the brain twisting bit. How would germanys size and borders look, had it won ww2.
Without germany to get in the way, russia made a bid for world domination, bringing out wwii anyway, just in a different flavour. If germany won maybe ww2 happened still and the nazis rose to power but niall ferguson in his book pity of war lays it out really well economically and socially. Set in 1964, this alternatehistory spy thriller takes place in a world where nazi germany launches a massive. Germany uses blitzkrieg tactics while russia invade poland. In 8 out of ten germany wins and in one of the two thant the nazis lost one last.
The man in the high castle is based on a 1962 novel written by philip k. Germany wins the battle of britain and invades england in operation sea lion. Least i could do once had a storyline about rayne writing an alternate history book about nazi germany, though the main alternate history thing about it was the selfinsert fic part. Im guessing the op would want a book with a timeline on the nazis winning the war, more like turtledoves early tl191 books. Dicks brainwarping story is set in a world where the axis. If you have any interest in military history and of world war i in particular, you will appreciate this authors take on alternate history of this monumental event.
Definitely worth the read if anyone is ever interested. A more competent leader in ww2 mightve meant germany cutting ties from japan after pearl harbor, or working closer with them against the soviet union. In a matter of days, poland is under german and russian control. Without hitler, there was even a chance germany wouldve taken a more neutral stance toward the soviet union to claim war against france.
Hitler triumphant alternate histories of world war 2. His southern victory or timeline191 series has the confederates. The nazis are by far the most dominant in this field, however. The confederacy, the soviets, the romans, the greeks, the mongols, the egyptians, the aztecs, and the colonialera british are all possibilities.
How to have germany win it all in ww2 alternate history. What if, by the passing of just two events, japan and germany had won world. But they both concentrate on the aftermath and how messed up a nazi world would be. Also, germany s resources were limited lesser than those of the british empire, for instance and diversion into carriers, a naval air arm, and a heavy bomber force would have meant less elswehere, like the tactical air arm, fighters, and armor.
Apr 05, 2017 now germany faced not just france and russia, but also the immense military and economic resources of the british empire. Japan struck north rather than south, russia fell, germany is unassailable in europe. Death camps in americas heartland, secret police raids in urban centers, social media spying on your every move. How would history be different if the germans had won the. France had a population of 39 million in 1914, versus germany s 67 million.
However, the atomic bombs are not used due to fear of. I asked that same question over on a history book group and got the same answer you gave. The germans had captured 90 percent of the city by november 18, 1942. After winning ww i, germany invades america in 1920, marching through california and texas as a desperate nation resists. Oil and triumph of nazi germany in 1945 the leader of nazi germany took his own life in an underground bunker surrounded by the smoldering remains of his capital city. Jul 21, 2008 i seem to remember somebody mentioning a what if fiction book that looked back at wwii after the fact, written as if germany had won wwii. If nazi germany, for whatever reason, achieved victory in world war ii, then its borders would most certainly look like this. Using this trope is typically prone to alternate history wank and dated history. After failure of talks regarding the polish corridor and danzig, germany formalizes an alliance with russia. I found the narrative, using actual historical characters, stimulating and informative.
How would europes borders look like if germany had won the. Now germany faced not just france and russia, but also the immense military and economic resources of the british empire. World war ii alternate histories are texts wherein events during world war ii occurred differently to those in history. Robert harris, fatherland 1992, another one in which germany wins the war, although the u.
Alternate history what if germany had won world war i. This is a list of alternate history fiction, sorted by type. Dick is one of the first alternate history novels to look at an axis victory in world war two. Dicks brainwarping story is set in a world where the axis powers won world war ii, and america has been divided between japan and nazi germany the brain twisting bit. The most unusual alternate history novels ever published. Fatherland, by robert harris, a 1992 novel of alternate history conceived as. In 1940 great britain is invaded and after six months of brutal fighting surrenders to the axis forces. My question is, does anybody think it was possible in real life for. Yes, germany could have won world war i and changed history. Dick, is an acknowledged classic of the alternativehistory genre the sort of books that imagine a world in which something important had gone. Germany wins world war two alternative history fandom. The nazis were defeated, and the allies stood victorious.
During world war ii, everyone had a planor at least thought they did. The soviets were hanging on with bloody finger nails. I know theres alot of books about nazi germany winning and the turtledove series following the uscs had the usgermany winning world war i setting the stage for a nazicsa. Southern victory also called timeline191 after general robert e. In june 1940 a serious faction within the british government urged making peace with germany. By the author of breakout ww ii era alternate history himmlers war and rising sun, a compelling alternate history thriller. It is not an exaggeration to say the soviets had their backs.
The usa and soviet union fight nazi germany in an alternate world war ii after a british. How would europes borders look like if germany had won. Dick you cant discuss alternate history without bringing up the man in the high castle. In 1945 the leader of nazi germany took his own life in an underground bunker surrounded by the smoldering remains of his capital city. Norman spinrad, the iron dream 1972, which is presented as a science fiction novel written. Norman spinrad, the iron dream 1972, which is presented as a science fiction novel written by pulpfiction artist adolf hitler after he flees germany to live in the united states after the end of the first world war. Jan 19, 2015 the man in the high castle by philip k. My educated guess is that the nazi party collapses in germany as the german economy. Probably the first book length alternate history, napoleon and the conquest of the world. The book at issue here appeared in 1962, and earned him the hugo award for science fiction a year later. In this timeline nazi germany is victorious in world war 2, as a result of the mass soviet defeat at kursk and velikiyeluki in 1943 and then the conquest of the rest of soviet russia.
How to have germany win it all in ww2 alternate history fiction. Probably the first booklength alternate history, napoleon and the conquest of the world. The 11 coolest alternate history stories in video games. His southern victory or timeline191 series has the confederates beating the union. Germany uses blitzkrieg tactics while russia invade poland through huge numerical superiority. The best alternative histories in literature on abebooks.
There are several strong sexual scenes in the book. I seem to remember somebody mentioning a what if fiction book that looked back at wwii after the fact, written as if germany had won wwii. Nazi germany had a lot of disadvantages and would have needed several lucky breaks just to durably win the war in europe and already got several breaks that would seem improbable if presented as fiction, never mind grow to a globespanning empire, but many. This vibrant fiction genre could be renamed what if books. The thing that stuck in my mind was that the tone, phrases, attitudes, etc of the book were of the winner writes history slant which would be so odd to us today. The undisputed king of alternative histories is the prolific harry turtledove, who has helped guide the genre into mainstream reading. The most intriguing alternate history weve heard of in ages. Imperial germany has become the most powerful nation in the world. In this alternate history hernan cortes defected and lead to a repulsion of the spanish invasion of the americas. Dec 17, 2015 world war ii set humanity on a path to our modern world. What wouldve happened if japan and the axis won world war ii. The british empire and the french empire declare war against the german reich. Germany already had a huge technological edge in 1940. The most common variant of these detail the victory and survival of nazi germany.
Budspy spy novel set in a world where the nazis won world war ii. Hypothetical axis victory in world war ii wikipedia. Create an imaginative world war 2 alternate history book. A plot to defeat the roman catholic church and install hitler as the new pope. After winning ww i, germany invades america in 1920, marching. Dick is the same author of blade runner which ridley scott also converted into a film way back in 1982 with. They try to prevent the axis powers from winning world war ii. I dont see churchill making peace and he is already in office but it would change the dynamics in other key ways. This book is a stimulating and entirely plausible insight into how hitler and his. And if any of the plans below had been used, our history would have changed entirely. The undisputed king of alternative histories is the prolific harry turtledove, who has helped. An alternative history set in berlin 1964 and the nazis have won the. Albert, bridget barstow, steve bernard, gregory blair. In september 1940 the raf was within a whisker of defeat, leaving britain open to invasion.
The confederacy, the soviets, the romans, the greeks, the mongols, the egyptians, the. Japan struck north rather than south, russia fell, germany is unassailable in. Written in 1962, its set in a fictional 1962 where nazi. An alternate history of the first world war heller, andrew j.
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